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"Communication Hierarchy" Question

Hi there, 

So, similar to my question about the "Power of Questions" section, I was curious about how best to realistically apply the communication hierarchy within the context of student interactions that are much briefer than the context that this was apparently originally developed for (marriage counseling). I am graduate trained in marriage counseling, among other types, and was unfamiliar with this particular tool, but I do know that it would be unrealistic for us to be able to regularly reach higher level stages like the top of the pyramid (the bonding stage) with contact with students unless we had been working with them very often and regularly and established a real connection. I know that in this module there was a big focus on the "mutual interest" stage between both the advisor and student and the student and potential institution, and this is certainly more attainable and fairly realistic given the work that we do (helping match student interests and needs to potential institutions and programs). 

I'm also curious if you have recommendations for deepening the "mutual interest" stage beyond the usual identification that a student's basic academic and career goals match with the institution and program. 

Thanks, and looking forward to your reply. 

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asked 08/20/2021 20:30
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Dr. Jean Norris
replied 08/24/2021 15:00

Hello Tyler.  You are correct that reaching the BONDING stage in the Hierarchy is something more applicable to marriage or deeper relationships. Keep in mind, our goal with students doesn't involve going to that place. We are simply trying to reach the Mutual Interest stage in order to improve our odds of our opinions being heard.  :) 

Thank you for your thoughtful post!

Kelly G.
replied 08/23/2021 14:00

Hi Tyler. Thanks for posting your question, I'd like to weigh in here but I am sure others will too, so at least this can kick off some responses.

When it comes to the communication hierarchy, every person has their own hierarchy. Sometimes you have to go backwards to earn the right to move forward, but in regular everyday communication with other people, you are actually moving throughout the hierarchy at all times. So when it comes to students and a very short conversation, let's say for example, during the first contact and you are looking to set up an appointment, you don't want to rush to set the appointment (opinion stage) without the ritual, small talk, and mutual interest stage because without that mutual interest being meaningful, the odds of your opinions being actively listened to and following through on them, will go down. That mutual interest can be lots of things, maybe it is a connection that you two have in common, maybe it is understanding the "why" to their career goals, maybe it is an increased feeling of belonging or happiness and self-worth, or maybe it is supporting the student on their new found confidence. Bottom line, it is truly when human connection happens. 

Ultimately this tool will take as long as it needs to take but remember it doesn't just work perfectly up the triangle, it moves backwards and forwards and back down again before reaching that top stage of bonding together and that might not be done in one point of contact. It might come through after multiple appointments with the student, and that is OK! Everyone has their own hierarchy and it is helpful to know where you are to determine how you can move up together through communication. 

Jim B.
replied 08/23/2021 15:00

Excellent points, Kelly. 

I once had a prospective student that, unbeknownst to me, where I had a very close connection with his father. I would have never known that had I not taken the time to establish "mutual interest". Turns out, after some small talk in an attempt to build rapport, I discovered I had worked with his father in Europe for 5 years. Had I not taken the time to try to establish mutual interest, he may have never taken the next step to commitment to attending. After establish mutual interest, we hit it off and his father came in the next day to catch up with me. His son graduated two years later. An awesome experience.  

Moral of the story, take the time, however long it takes, to find something (anything) in common with your prospective students. Once you find commonality I think you will find it much easier to have the conversations necessary to make sure we set our students up for success.  Thanks, Tyler!

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replied 08/23/2021 19:38

Hi Kelly and Jim, 

Thank you for your replies. I can definitely see how any tool like this would be best regarded as a flexible guide in which one can move between stages of the hierarchy as needed. Jim, your story leads me to another question. Obviously student advising is different from my original training in counseling, but it still seems that you would need to consider boundaries and how much self-disclosure is appropriate in conversations with students. For instance, I regularly mention resources that assisted me in applying to and completing graduate school or validate a student's struggles by disclosing that I'm encountered similar issues in my educational career. However, I typically focus very heavily on the student's experience and minimally self-disclose, and only when I see a very tangible reason to do so. What are your thoughts on balancing what might be appropriate self-disclosure with the two-sided conversation needed to genuinely establish mutual interest? Thanks and looking forward to your reply. 

Jim B.
replied 08/24/2021 16:02

Great question, Tyler.  For sure, it's a delicate balance, but your approach to focus heavily on the prospective student is spot-on. However, there is nothing wrong with sharing your educational experiences (above the line) with the prospective student. It helps prospective students to understand others have faced similar obstacles and have overcome them. They are not alone. Subconsciously, they know it. However, once it is vocalized (and they see others in similar situations while in school), it provides the prospective student reinforcement by letting the them know, whether it's your experience or the experience of others, you understand how they feel; other's have felt the same way, and once they became comfortable in their new routine, they found they were more organized in their lives making them feel in control and accomplished. We appreciate your insight and your questions, Tyler! 

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